Tuesday, March 6, 2007

The big one comes knocking ... and again I am the last man standing

OK... Now this is the big one. The big one has come knocking on my doors and i have to go ready to face him. Hope he is not knocking to give a knock out punch to my hopes . Okay, enuf of this.. I know i suck miserably in writing, so lemme get on with it.

Now this interview was at 9 AM in brigade road. So happily left home at 8:20 and reached the venue on time. Met a lot of ppl who were there with me in the Lucknow interview. So was sitting and chatting with them when exactly at 8:50 AM a prof comes in with the list and starts reading out the names dividing 24 of us into 3 batch of 8 each. I was in Panel 1 and as u might have guessed mine was the last name in the panel. Man, i am seriously thinking of setting up a research to find out what is it with me and being the last man. This is the 4th time out of 4 when i am either the last one to be interviewed or one or two before the last. Never have i been before 7 in the list of name. Well being last has its pros and cons.

Pros: U get to know abt the mood of the panel and a general feedback abt them and also get to know of a few questions.
Cons: U can get ur mind cluttered hearing all the experiences. Bigger problem ... u need to answer that most obvious question " So u r the last one. So what have u heard abt us outside?". And the biggest problem??? Man, I am half asleep by the time i am led to the slaughter house.

OK..Coming back. So we were a panel of eight and surprise surprise... 4 out of the eight were in the same panel in the Lucknow interview, so we sort of knew each other. We were let into the room and made to sit in a U shape. On the arm of the chair (It is those type of chairs which has a writing pad on it), there were 3 papers kept. One empty ruled sheet, one pink coloured sheet and a plain sheet which supposedly had the case. We were asked not to touch those papers till being told to do so. They then collected out application forms and the xerox copies of the certificates.

After that one of the prof explained the process. 5 minutes to read the case, 15-20 mins to discuss and 5 minutes to write the summary of the discussion. So here goes the experience

GD

The case was about some Mr Mandy incharge of UP region for a company dealing in Stocks and Post office deposits (or something like that). His company has acquired some new companies with many offices in rural areas.The investments from rural areas account to 81% of the total investments as some rich guys there invest large sum of money. But the pay structure is different in both the companies with the ppl in the new company getting more pay. The ppl in old company also start asking more pay. Also, due to some recent CBI charges against some of the rich ppl in rural area, the investment from there is expected to be very low for the next 6 to 12 months. So What shud Mandy do??

(I have tried to provide the summary of the case. I might have missed out on many points. The case was for one full A4 size sheet)

5 minutes to read the case 15-20 to discuss it and 5 minutes for summary.

Overall a pretty cool GD. Everybody participated. I came in some 4-5 times with one original point. There were lot many suggestions, but the GD was not structured. So most of the times we kept on discussing the same points.

After around 15-17 minutes, they stopped the discussion and asked us to write the summary. I was in the middle of a sentence when they asked us to stop. So had to stop there itself. Back to the waiting room and the wait starts.

PI

There are 3 profs, P1, P2, P3. and Me

P1 comes to the door and lets me in and goes out for a minute. I walk in wish the panel and take the seat

P2: So, U had to wait for a long time. Can i have ur certificates?
Me: Yes Sir ( Gives him. He passes it on to P3)
P2: So what did u hear about the panel outside
Me: Sir heard that the panel is very friendly and most of the questions are based on what is written in the form and about hobbies
P2: OK, So u have done ur BE in Information Science and Engineering. Is it close to computer science or is it close to Electronics?
Me: Computer Science sir. Actually only one or two subjects differ between us both
P3: Us meaning who??
P2: Information Science and Computer Science
Me :
P3: How can information be science? Science means there should be some basic theorems and axioms and laws. Like physics has Newtons law. So what is the basic theorem of Information Science??
Me: . Sir basic theorem of Information Science??(Abe...now what is this theorem??)
P3: Yes
Me: Sorry sir, as far as i know, i can't remember studying any basic theorem for information science
P3: So how can u say it as science??
Me: (Arre yaar...yeh ky a ho raha hain. I have already finished studying, now u r asking why it is named so).. Sir it is close to computer science, so the name
P3: Computer science has basic theorem and Laws. Tell me that
Me : (Waahhhhhh.... I am sick of this theorem. WTF is the basic theorem of Computer Science???)Sorry sir. I don't know .
P3: So u haven't studied that properly.
Me: (Ha ha ha... u finally came to know now.... )
P3: (to P2) Sorry u were asking something. Continue
P2: So u had worked in Infosys some time
Me: Yes Sir. For 8 months
P2: Then u have worked in HP for the past .... almost 2 yrs
Me: Yes Sir. 21st of march and it will be 2 yrs
P2: Reason for leaving Infosys is that u got a better offer..
Me: Yes sir. I wanted to work in the system side and in Infy, I was working on the test team. So this is a better offer for me. Also monetarily also this was a better offer.
P2: So tell me 3 thing which u have learnt in HP which u wouldn't have learnt if u had not joined HP
Me : Explained him something.
P2: How do u put it in one phrase?
Me: Put it in a phrase
P2: OK So what are the other 2
Me: (Thought for about a min) Gave him one or two other things which he refused telling that u might have learnt it in Infosys also...as a matter of fact anywhere
Me: Sorry sir... I couldn't think of anything else
P2: Thats ok. So how do spend time off from work
Me: Watch football and F1 on TV, play them and comp games.
P2: So how do u keep in touch with the current topics, news??
Me: I read newspapers, watch news and internet
P2: Tell me something which happened in the recent past, which affects u.
Me: Think for 5 seconds, Sir recently the stray dog menace.....blah blah
P2: How does it affect u?
Me: Blah blah...
P2: OK, apart from that??
Me: Sir elections in Punjab, Uttarakhand..
P2: How does it affect u?
Me: It doesn't affect me sir. It is just GK
P2: OK anything else
Me: Sir, Budget
P2: How does it affect u?
ME: Blah Blah, Income tax, blah blah, Educational cess increased
P1 and P3 together: So do u have to pay more tax or less tax next year
Me: More tax Sir
P3: SO u don't want to join an IIM this year?? If u join where will u pay tax??
Me: (Arre Phas gaya ) . Sir even then, I will have to pay tax for the three months
P1: That will not reach the limit set for the IT exemption at all
Me : (Good .. atleast he agrees i am being paid less. Tell it to my manager) . No sir, but the tax is deducted at source. So it will be deducted anyway and i will receive lesser salary
P3: That u can anyways claim back. Good, just shows that u r thinking
Me:
P3 (to P2): Sorry again u were asking something
P2 looks at P1
P1: So u have participated in science quiz in ur college
Me: (Uske bhare main mat poocho) Yes sir
P1: Was it during engineering??
Me: No sir, it was during my PU
P1: Oh 11th and 12th is it??
Me: Yes sir, 11th and 12th
P1: So where was it organized and why??
Me : Sir XYZ college had their annual cultural and tech fest. So it was organized there
P1: So what type of quiz was it. They go on asking questions rapidly and u answer is it?? U know there are many types of quiz
Me: Yes sir. But this was normal quiz with multiple rounds, Had visual rounds, rapid fire etc etc
P1: So what do u think. These quizzes will they help the students to understand a subject completely or they just propogate superficial knowledge??
Me: Sir depends on the level. If it is some local club or some other quiz, superficial knowledge is enuf. But once u move up the level to national or state level u need to have in depth knowledge on the subject.
P1: So can u remember any question which was asked, which required in depth knowledge of science in that quiz??
Me: Sorry sir. It has been a long time. So I don't remember any question from it.

P2 starts again
P2: So do u watch movies??
Me: Yes sir, occasionally
P2: Have u watched Pyar ke side effects??
Me: No sir
P2: Have u watched Mallika Sherawat on Karan Johar's show??
Me: No sir, i missed that episode
P2: So i can't ask u anything on it.
ME: Sir i have seen some parts of it which they showed in between the ads on some other show
P2: Leave it.. have u watched Guru?
Me: No Sir Sir the last movie i saw was Salaam-e-Ishq (Go ahead and bash me up for seeing it)
P2: Thats a pretty old movie
Me: . Sir i saw it last month (Abe...It is relatively new than that pyar ke side effects)
P2: Yes it is pretty old

Now P3 starts
P3: Arun, I am actually impressed by ur marks in engineering
Me:
P3: Good, u have 125 in this subject Applied MAthematics 2. What was it??
Me: Sir, It had graph theory
P3: Graph Theory...Good. So what is the degree of a node??
Me: Sir, It is a long time since i studied. I think it must be the number of links from the node
P3: Yes, arcs
ME: Pardon Sir??
P3: arcs ... the links are called as arcs
Me: Yes Sir..the number of arcs
P3: So what is a node with odd degree and a node with even degree
Me: Sir i think ..... odd number of arcs and even number of arcs
P3: OK, What can u tell about the number of arcs in odd degree in a network.
Me: . Sir... i have studied long back, can't remember... but i think it occurs in pair
P3: In pairs??
Me: Sir the number of nodes of odd degree are even in number i think
P3: Can u prove it?? (Gives me a paper)
Me: Sir, i'll try, but i don't remember ...
P3: No need to remember..give it a try. U have 125 in it. So u must be good.
Me: (Why did i get 125??? ) OK Sir,

I start drawing a network

P3: I don't want example. Proof. U can use example to clear ur thoughts.

I try some more and tell him one or more thing. He asks me to prove it

Me: Sorry Sir, I am not able to
P3: OK, u have good marks in Analysis of Algorithms too. So what is the measure for how good an algorithm is??
ME: Sir Time complexity
P3: What is time complexity
Me: tell him. But he doesn't look satisfied.
P3: No that is not what time complexity is..
Me: Tell him something else
P3: No.. ok leave, u might have forgotten
Me :

They look at each other.
P1, P2, P3: Thank u. U may leave
Me: Thank u sir
P3: Take some toffees. Since u r the last person and u have waited long take all the three toffees in the bowl
Me: Thank u sir, One is enough for me. Thank u